CHEYENNE -- The Republican candidates for Wyoming's lone U.S. House have vastly different views on how to solve the nation's economic troubles -- and who is to blame for the slowdown.
"We didn't stick with sound business practices, and all of a sudden it all came tumbling down around our ears," said candidate Bill Winney, who blames the mortgage meltdown and higher fuel prices for much of the economic trouble.
Former state Treasurer Cynthia Lummis said out-of-control spending, the mortgage crisis, national debt and the balance of trade all played a role in the downturn.
But the biggest factor, she said, was the decision long ago to purchase the nation's fuel abroad, while foregoing opportunities to develop natural resources at home.
Mark Gordon, a rancher and businessman from Buffalo, said the economic exuberance of the last decade pushed the nation off course economically.
He said the question now is whether taxpayers should be required to "backstop" the poor judgment of some consumers and lenders. He said they should not.
Michael Holland, a physician from Green River, said the root of today's economic challenges can be pinned on bad lending and investment practices, which he said are largely controlled by a group of private bankers who have their own interests in mind.
Congress is also to blame for delegating the power to regulate money to groups like the Federal Reserve. The nation needs to return to fundamentals of good finance, Holland said, and Congress needs to take back the power to regulate the financial system. The Fed should be eliminated, he said.
"It's time to chase the money changers out of the temple," Holland said.
Holland, Winney, Lummis and Gordon are competing for the seat held by Rep. Barbara Cubin, R-Wyo., who is not seeking re-election. The winner of the Aug. 19 primary will face Democrat Gary Trauner of Wilson in the November general election.
Regardless of what caused the slowdown in the U.S. economy, Lummis said Congress is not taking the right steps to get the nation back on track.
The tax refund stimulus checks were an ill-advised attempt to give the economy a "shot of caffeine" when more fundamental changes were required.
Congress can improve the economy by reigning in spending, opening up domestic drilling to produce more federal mineral royalties and reducing spending by considering the closure of foreign military installations, Lummis said.
In the longer term, Congress needs to reform itself and the way it does business.
"The thirst for power in Washington prevents good people from doing the right thing, and the consequences for America have been huge," said Lummis, a rancher and lawyer who lives in Cheyenne.
Winney said that instead of one-time stimulus checks, the government should have considered a small permanent tax break, which would have provided an ongoing boost to the economy.
Winney said he has faith that private industry can develop solutions for the economy, while the role of government is to ensure sound business practices, and stay out of the way of innovation. Targeted tax breaks for American companies can help them get ahead in world markets, he added.
"If they're competitive, then we're selling U.S. products, and if we're selling more U.S. products, that's good for the economy, that's good for federal revenues, that's good for employment," said Winney, a former Navy officer who lives in Sublette County.
Gordon said the Bush tax cuts must be extended. If they expire in 2010 as scheduled, it could mean a major hit to the economy just when things might be getting back on track.
"What a terrific way to bring recovery to a dead stop," he said.
Holland said the recent attempts to stimulate the government with tax refunds are "window dressing" that mostly helped big bankers and money lenders.
The best way to stimulate the economy, he said, is for the federal government to stop regulating businesses to the point that they take their companies overseas.
All the candidates said the build-up of personal and national debt, coupled with the lack of savings, is hurting the country.
Gordon said it won't be easy to retire the national debt, but the country has an obligation to try.
He said Congress needs to address entitlements, waste and fraud, and has some difficult choices to make about what it can subsidize, and what it cannot.
Gordon said Congress needs to resist the temptation to raise taxes to balance the budget, and it needs to reduce the size of the federal government.
"That's positive because it brings government back to where it's closest to the people," he said.
Lummis said the federal government can promote savings by setting a good example. She proposed a savings account that uses federal mineral royalties to defray the cost of Department of Interior functions like protecting certain animal species.
"It sends a signal that America is going to start saving money, and hopefully sets a tone for American people," Lummis said.
Winney said Congress needs to not only balance the federal budget, but create a surplus to start paying down the national debt.
He would like to see Congress do that not by raising taxes, which "tamps down" economic activity, but by strengthening the national economy and cutting waste in the federal budgeting process.
Winney said the government can help enhance personal savings by making available mortgages, which are a big part of people's savings.
Holland said the nation's current financial system was designed to fail, and too many people are profiting from the nation's inability to pay its own debt.
He called it a "legal counterfeit scheme" that is turning the nation into a "banana republic."
The candidates also said they'd like to see some mortgage lending reform.
Gordon said Congress needs to take a look at the Truth in Lending Act, and mortgage-lending practices need to be made more friendly, simpler and more uniform so consumers know what they are getting.
Lummis also said tougher regulations are needed for mortgage lenders.
Holland said he would like to see Congress eliminate the Fed and require banks to have reserves for 100 percent of the money they lend.
Winney said more regulations are needed for mortgage, but Congress has to be careful not to stop innovation.
"How do you innovate without reaching? You've got to reach, but there are sometimes when you reach too far, and the government has to say that's too far," Winney said.
Reach reporter Jared Miller at (307) 632-1244 or at jared.miller@trib.com.
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Independent wrote on Jul 28, 2008 7:50 AM:
Common Cents wrote on Jul 28, 2008 7:58 AM:
TR wrote on Jul 28, 2008 9:12 AM:
Inky wrote on Jul 28, 2008 10:33 AM:
The Republicans, with a great deal of Democratic enabling, are pushing the US and the rest of the world into the abyss -- US debt, trade imbalances, the destruction of US manufacturing and the middle class, the obscene enrichment of the top 1 percent, the blatant purchase of political influence through campaign contributions -- have you had enough? "
Darla wrote on Jul 28, 2008 2:59 PM:
Hmmmm wrote on Jul 28, 2008 3:37 PM:
OBTW; you just can't tax an economy into prosperity. When will someone tell that to Sen. Obama and Nancy Pelosi? May be Jimmy Carter will tell them?
You liberal democrats should lay off of the medical Mary Jane and see the world without the obfuscation of hemp smoke a few times before you are on the wrong side of the dirt. "
hammertime wrote on Jul 28, 2008 4:26 PM:
flounder wrote on Jul 28, 2008 5:09 PM:
What a room full of stupid. "
Bowling for Dollars wrote on Jul 28, 2008 11:08 PM:
Mark Gordon "voted" against the Bush tax cuts, before he "voted" for them.
Sincerely,
Check #20017, The Check Mark Gordon Wrote to John Kerry AGAINST President Bush in 2004. "
Independent wrote on Jul 29, 2008 11:28 AM:
First off, the strategic oil reserves can be tapped quickly for immediate relief rather than taking decades to produce anything, but I am not advocating that either, as energy prices have not gone through the roof due to supply and demand, but rather due to deregulation and greedy speculators. At any rate, the real solution is to get off oil and onto alternative energy sources...solar, wind, hydro, etc. The technology is here today to generate our electricity through alternative sources to power our homes, businesses, and cars. The only thing stopping us greed. As far as well thought out consequences; if we had thought out the consequences of Iraq and used any common sense we would have never gone to Iraq in the first place.
P.S. a big part of the increase in energy prices is attributable to the instability in the middle east that our oil barron (I mean president) caused with his bogus invasion and occupation of another country for the purpose of raising the income of him and his oil buddies...it worked...now it's time to get the heck out of there and begin to heal the international wounds that the right wing extremists who have been running our government have opened up through their foolish policies. "
Darla wrote on Jul 29, 2008 4:24 PM:
Independent wrote on Jul 30, 2008 8:22 AM:
Darla wrote on Jul 30, 2008 1:08 PM:
Scott B wrote on Jul 30, 2008 1:27 PM:
DLB wrote on Jul 30, 2008 2:52 PM:
Independent wrote on Jul 30, 2008 4:04 PM:
Wendy wrote on Jul 30, 2008 4:57 PM:
Actually wrote on Jul 31, 2008 6:55 AM:
Actually Actually wrote on Jul 31, 2008 11:36 AM:
Simpson wrote on Jul 31, 2008 11:53 AM:
Anna wrote on Jul 31, 2008 12:41 PM:
Freddie wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:38 AM:
Let's take on example. What does it take to bring a single can of corn to your dinner table?
Let's not even worry for now about the corn itself. Let's look only at the corrugated products (cardboard) used to package that can of corn and only the material handling equipment, forklifts to move that around from raw form to the finished boxes and pallet boxes (tri-walls, or just bigger boxes).
Every step in creating the cardboard boxes requires that raw, semi-finished and then completed boxes are handled many, many times over. This includes the adhesives used to assemble these boxes and pallet boxes, the ink for printing all the required labels on the boxes as each portion of each box goes through the multiple steps in manufacturing, assembly, distribution, transportation, marketing, warehousing at each stage, whole sale and retail chains of supply, and these you picking it up to drive home with it from the store.
Converting all of those multiple handling events from the current green house gas producing fuels to cleaner and fully renewable fuels will not happen over night nor will it be cheap. Businesses bring us these products and this change must be profitable for them, or you will not longer get these products.
Let's not cut off our own nose to spite our face by jumping hastily to unproven conclusions. Slow by steady, and deliberately based on facts is how we must proceed. We cannot let emotions rule the day or our decisions. Logic based on fact must be the decider. "
Jumpin Jim wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:53 AM:
Yvon wrote on Aug 1, 2008 12:38 PM:
Suzie wrote on Aug 4, 2008 8:34 AM:
A) Increase taxes.
B) Pay race reparations.
C) Steal profits above the amount you think a company should make.
D) Do not allow domestic commodity exploration, rely on outside sources.
E) Run from every possible conflict even if a positive outcome in a conflcit is of benefit to the US, Nations involved and the rest of the world.
F) Discard all traditional American cultural values in lieu of anything new and anti-establishment.
G) Dump all of our long standing allies and replace them with nations of questionable motives. "
Wheatland wrote on Aug 4, 2008 9:27 AM:
Tina wrote on Aug 4, 2008 9:32 AM:
How do you think that a major corporations tax dollars get to a school in Wyoming? How do you think that the wages earned by a worker in an autoparts store are turned into wages for those that sell them products at the grocery store and are then again turned over many, many times in the economy creating a tidal wave of value to all whose hands this money passes through and are taxed with each transaction many, many times over?
That is trickle down economics. It is in faithful operation all around you each and every day.
Stay on the bench if you can't play on the adult field. "
Braveheart wrote on Aug 4, 2008 10:24 AM:
Money invested in new business ventures, corporations (e.g. Exxon Mobile), partnerships (e.g. law firm) and sole proprietorships (e.g. family farm) is first paid out to employees, suppliers, and contractors. Only some time later, if the business is profitable (revenues generated exceed overhead costs, creating a profit margin), does money return to the original business owner(s) which started this cycle.
Money paid to employees, suppliers, and contractors is then also turned over many times as these groups used as an example, then consume this money for business and personal purchases in myriad follow-on transactions which are also all tax collecting events (e.g. with each transaction taxes are collected).
Businesses provide wages and benefits to workers (aka a worker's total compensation package). When business is profitable workers profit and more workers can be hired (increased opportunities to labor). These workers then spend their wages across the economy and again these expenditures are taxed (federal, state, local) with each transaction.
When businesses are successful they also directly pay taxes and exchange money with other businesses in business to business (B2B) transactions and ventures. This allows supporting (outlying from the first entity) businesses to hire additional workers, pay additional taxes and over all increases the number of money transactions in any economy manifold.
Based on the forgoing one can see that money or wealth is never consumed even if saved in an interest bearing account. Money is always at work. When in a savings account that bears interest the party saving it is paid for the banks use of the money in the form of loans to say build new homes, start new business, send children to college, etc.
This is the heart of a healthy economy and it is the success of what is typically referred to as "trickle down" economics. "
enough already wrote on Aug 4, 2008 10:57 AM:
I have heard about enough crap from you idiots. If anyone doesn't agree with your misguided beliefs, you paint them as somehow uninformed or unpatriotic. Fact is that our country has followed the misguided policies that you advocate for the last eight years and has run our economy into the ground. It's been a great eight years for big oil, but has brought nothing but problems for the rest of the people.
There are solutions for our energy needs, but continuing to craft our energy policy to benefit the oil companies will not solve the crisis, but rather will make things worse. I do not have a problem with a business making a profit, but oil companies making record profits at a time when consumers are paying record high gas prices and causing the entire economy to suffer through rapidly increasing prices across the board becomes a matter of national security; the government must re-regulate the energy industry before they have completely destroyed our economy.
I know you republicans who blindly follow along with whatever your party wants you to do will attack me and say I should stay on the sidelines because I don't agree with you; I will not though. As far as trickle down economics...b.s. nothing is trickling down; it is staying in the wealthy hands that Bush and the GOP put it into; I have bad news for most of you blindly following republicans; it isn't trickling down to you either, you are just so blinded by the spin from your party that you cannot see that you are being screwed. "
Ryan wrote on Aug 4, 2008 12:25 PM:
They see either the front, middle or end portions and never construct a whole solution that will work and last.
Fire them all and reelect no one until they perform adequately. "
Ellen wrote on Aug 4, 2008 1:23 PM:
Run the nation into the ground in 8 years?
Where are the breadlines?
Where is the rationing?
Where are the power outtages?
Where are the hunger riots?
Where are the tent camps for the desolate?
Where is the mass starvation?
Get a grip and try to control your Obamamania! "
Donald wrote on Aug 4, 2008 1:37 PM:
Karen wrote on Aug 4, 2008 1:42 PM:
How is Exxon-Mobile making a profit margin of about 8% on the dollar they invest benefiting them unfairly?
Apple Computer makes around 20% profit margin. Where are Apple's protesters?
By the way, isn't everyone screaming for gasoline under $4.00 per gallon?
You demand cheap fuel and you want to increase taxes on the people that make the fuel.
Won't they simply increase the cost at the pump to cover the added overhead (higher taxes)? "
get real wrote on Aug 4, 2008 2:13 PM:
Truly wrote on Aug 4, 2008 2:25 PM:
We have plenty of real crisis shortages. Not enough I-Phones, not enough seats in theaters to allow everyone to watch the new Batman movie, not enough Smart cars and Hybrid vehicles, not enough time to try all of the new menu items being trotted out at all of the fast food places.
Yes, times they are really rough compared to the 1917-18 (WWI, Flu of 1918), 1920's (Kennedy family rum runners and other gangsters), 1930's (depression and dustbowl), 1940's (WWII), 1950's (Korean War), 1960's (Cold War, Cuban Crisis, Vietnam) and the end of the 70's beginning of the 80's (Carter stagflation, gas crisis, Carter recession).
Few of these folks would know real hardship if it was smacked on their dim heads. "
Dwayne wrote on Aug 4, 2008 2:28 PM:
Next time that MicroSoft posts record profits will I see any negative posts about that success story? Not one chance of it.
Your are a hypocrit and an idiot to boot. "
arrogant elitists wrote on Aug 4, 2008 6:41 PM:
How come we are exporting oil right now anyways, if there isn't enough in America? And why is Frontier Refinery in Cheyenne is losing money if we are getting ripped off by high gas prices? "
wow wrote on Aug 4, 2008 8:41 PM:
online.wsj.com/article/SB121780636275808495.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Enough already: the person and or company that gives you a paycheck do they have more money than you or less?? I would guess more. Thats called "Trickle down economics" "
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